In this episode of Build Better Boards, hosts Dr. Keri Jacobs and Richard Fagerlin discuss how directors can shift from a hands-on management mindset to one focused on governance and policy. They explore why operational conversations often creep into the boardroom and how boards can stay grounded in their strategic responsibilities.
- Many directors enter the boardroom with a management mindset, especially those transitioning from operational roles or member backgrounds.
- A historical shift from management boards to policy boards is still in progress, contributing to confusion about the board’s proper role.
- Operational drift can undermine executive accountability and distract boards from long-term strategy and policy oversight.
- Onboarding should clarify what directors are responsible for—and not—through explicit guidelines, examples, and shared discussion.
- Board culture, chair-CEO collaboration, and meeting structure all influence whether directors stay aligned with governance responsibilities.
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Meet Our Hosts
With unique backgrounds in organizational health and cooperative research, Richard Fagerlin of Peak Solutions and Dr. Keri Jacobs from the University of Missouri bring a wealth of expertise to Build Better Boards.
Their combined experience offers practical, actionable insights that empower co-op boards to navigate challenges, strengthen leadership, and truly thrive.

Richard Fagerlin,
Peak Solutions
